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Konstantin Raudive Speaks During Séance
September 25th Tom and Lisa Butler attended a séance with materialization medium, David Thompson and the Circle of the Silver Cord. David is one of the World’s foremost direct voice & physical (materialization) mediums (one of only three known mediums publicly demonstrating).
David has been thoroughly tested over the years by leading authorities in controlled environments. Montague Keen, member of the Council of the Society for Psychical Research for fifty-five years and secretary of its Survival Research Committee, investigated a David Thompson séance prior to his own passing in 2004. Keen’s professional report and reports by other investigators leave little room for doubt that the phenomena experienced during one of these séances are real. For example, precautions against fraud are taken before each séance, such as searching and scanning the room, all sitters and circle members with a metal detector. Tom monitored the gagging and binding of David and then examined the room for any possible means of fraud. The same kind of cable tie used for temporary handcuffs were used to secure his sweater, the knot holding his gag and his arms to the solidly built wood chair. The ends were clipped of, each cut making a sharp sound.
This was a personal trip for the Butlers as it has always been a dream of Lisa’s to sit with David Thompson. They had no idea just how historic and exciting the journey would be for them. They did not know what to expect, other than the opportunity to experience physical phenomena first hand. What they got was a conversation with Konstantin Raudive, the person credited with introducing EVP to the English-speaking world. Experimenters often report recording his voice via EVP but the last time an extended conversation took place with him, that the Butlers are aware of, was a series of phone calls he made to researchers such as Sarah Estep, Mark Macy and George Meek in 1994.
The Butlers wish to express their deepest thanks to David Thompson and the Circle of the Silver Cord for their warm hospitality and the great effort they make to continue the public demonstrations. This is one of the most important proofs of survival available today.
Most of the Konstantin Raudive dialog is provided here. His voice is not exactly like some of the recordings available on the Internet. Tom knew who it was with the first few words. It is difficult for our nonphysical friends to speak through ectoplasm, as Raudive says several times during this conversation. The Butlers believe that is why the voice is slightly different. As with EVP, what he said was most evidential.
A portion of the conversation between Raudive and the Butlers has been removed where the short period of silence is in the file. This is just for the time being because Raudive gave directions for a possible way to shield a microphone to improve recording of EVP. The Butlers will assemble the hardware and test the concept before making the information public. This will help avoid unnecessary costs for people who will probably want to try the idea. A complete parts list and early test results should be available for the March 2010 issue of the AA-EVP NewsJournal.
Konstantin Raudive Speaks Partial Transcript of Konstantin Raudive at the Circle of the Silver Cord guest séance Sept. 25 2009, Sydney Australia
What you will hear in this sound file: Sounds that are the end of Music Chris, Circle Leader: Can we all hold hands please, welcome. Konstantin Raudive (KR): Can you here me? Circle Members: Yes we can. K R: I have a little bit of difficulty talking. Chris: That’s okay, we can hear you clearly. KR: My name is Raudive, Konstantin Raudive. Circle Members: Konstantin Raudive, welcome. KR: You understand me? You do hear me? I’m coming through clearly, am I? Circle Members: Yes, your are. Yes! KR: I want to speak to Butlers. I want to speak to Butlers. Butlers: Yes, yes, we're here. KR: You hear me? Butlers: Yes. KR: I cannot feel your vibration very strongly. Butlers: Were very glad to hear from you, very glad. KR: You know who I am? Butlers: Oh yes, absolutely. KR: Yes, I am over in the Spirit Realm. KR: Can she not hear? (Lisa was overwhelmed and had difficulty hearing that last remark. Others in the circle jumped in to let him know he was being heard. The Butlers were later told that this is very difficult for them and the communication could have ended abruptly if Raudive thought that he was not getting through.) Circle Member: She can, someone says “he’s over in the spirit realm.” Butlers: Yes, yes. Lisa: Are people over there still working to contact us through technology? KR: Yes, Schreiber; Schreiber is there too. (Visual ITC pioneer, Klaus Schreiber) Tom: Okay. KR: And we, I wish to talk to you in regards to communication. Butlers: Good, good. Tom: We’re here to serve on that. KR: Listen to me. You have much difficulty in the past, yes? Butlers: Yes. KR: I will tell you how you may do it. (Konstantin Raudive gives us some directions on shielding a microphone. He thinks that this will greatly help communication. We are trying to gather the equipment to try and do what he has told us. After we have done this and are able to test the concept, we will publish his full conversation along with any results that we get.) After finishing the directions, he continues: KR: Schreiber, is quite often with your work, you know Schreiber? Butlers: Yes. KR: He works with me much, much, he works with you as I do. Lisa: We are so honored. Tom: Do you see on your side, us on this side doing any good and making any progress overall? I know that we are not going to solve everything, but are we making progress from your view? KR: One little step is much to help the communication, one little step makes a lot of difference to many people. Only takes one little step. Tom: Alright. Lisa: Can we do this experiment that you are talking about? Can we do this work in a new group that seems to be coming together or should we do this on our own? KR: You may do it with others; it will be helpful to you. Lisa: Very good. KR: It has taken much for me to speak to you. Lisa: Thank you so much. KR: Listen to what I tell you. You listen carefully to what I tell you and you will have much success. Lisa: Thank you. KR: I now must go. Group: Thank you.
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