Children Together on the Other
Article in the
Spring 2003 AA-EVP
NewsJournal by Lisa Butler
Copeland and Karen Mossey know that not only are their children together on the
other side but that their children are also responsible for the friendship that
has formed between them. Karen told us that Martha had just lost Cathy, “I
cried reading her Emails on the AA-EVP Egroup. I wanted to reach out to her and
there was a driving force that I had to know about Cathy. It was stronger then
just emailing each other; we began to talk, finding we shared so much in common.
We found that our children were in fact very much alike.”
Karen asked her son Rob to
send her a dream. He did send a dream, but not to Karen. Instead, another of
Karen’s friends, Judy, who did not know either Cathy or Rob, had a dream about
Rob, as did Martha.
Martha’s daughter, Cathy,
came to her in a dream and told her that she had a new friend named Rob and that
he liked to fish all of the time. In her dreams, Martha had normally seen Cathy
in a meadow near the ocean. However, with the news of Cathy’s new friend,
Martha began seeing her in a log cabin. She just could not understand this, as
Cathy was very much connected to the ocean in real life.
As Judy related her dream to
Karen, “Karen, your son came to me in a dream last night. I have never met him
but I know it was him.” Judy said that, in her dream, Karen and Judy were
managing a small store with another friend. Karen and the friend had to leave
the store and the minute that they did, Judy saw a bright flash of light and
then Karen’s son, Rob, appeared with a young woman. Judy said that the girl
was Rob’s girlfriend and she had blonde hair. (Cathy has blonde hair.) Rob
told Judy, “Tell my mother I am happy and that I have found a new love.”
Karen wrote, “This was such
a confirmation for Martha and I that Rob and Cathy would come through together
to a stranger, my friend Judy, who did not know either one of them. Judy
believes that I am still too fragile to receive Rob in person and that is why I
needed to be taken out of the store and why the message had to come through
Karen continued, “I
immediately called Martha because she had just told me about her dream in which
Rob and Cathy were in the fishing lodge and Rob was cooking fish. He was always
cooking fish! Rob’s passion was fishing.” We learned that Rob’s head stone
even has a picture of him fishing, with Karen and the rest of the family having
a picnic. “Gone fishin” is etched in the Black Marble.
As even further proof, one
night Karen called Martha and told her that she had remembered something. She
had been given a little log cabin bird house when Rob died. She sent a picture
of it to Martha and Martha immediately recognized it as the log cabin in her
Karen next began to have a
repeated vision of Rob and Cathy dancing, which she felt that she needed to
paint. Martha and Cathy loved dancing. Rob, on the other hand, was not very fond
of dancing. A week later, Martha called Karen and said that she had another
dream. Rob and Cathy were in the log cabin again. Rob was sitting with two of
his friends. (Karen wrote that, “Ironically Rob had two very good friends,
Brandon and John, who passed on before Rob—as with Cathy and Rob, because of
auto accidents.”) In Martha’s dream, the boys were watching TV. Also in the
dream, Cathy told Martha that Rob had sent the vision of them dancing to Karen
to let her know that he is happy. Rob also told Cathy in the dream that, “My
Mom is an awesome artist.” These are the exact words he used to tell Karen
this, before his transition.
Martha told us, “I had another strange thing happen regarding Cathy with Karen.
Karen had wanted to paint a picture of Cathy and Rob dancing. Cathy had a very
nice wooden artist studio box that had been missing for some time and I wanted
to give it to Karen.” Martha had repeatedly looked in Cathy’s room but the box
was nowhere to be found. She wrote, “I kept hearing Cathy's voice in my head
telling me to look in her room. She seemed to be saying, ‘Mom look in my room
one more time.’ When I did, I found the artist set placed in the middle of her
bed. I guess Cathy wanted the box sent to Karen, too!
As most of our members know,
Martha has been receiving many communications from Cathy via EVP. In Cathy’s
picture, on the left, you will see a couple of Cathy’s pets on her shoulder.
Martha wrote that her sister, Ginny, took the rat named Elanely after Cathy’s
death. Martha, an animal lover, just was not that keen on rats, but Ginny has
become very fond of Elanely. She feeds her snacks and gives her a kiss before
going to work.
Recently, Ginny was using her daughter Rachel’s
computer. Rachel was in the room studying for an exam. Ginny did a recording on
the computer and then played it back using the Cool Edit software. Both could
hear Cathy singing on the recording saying, “Elanely,
I miss my rat, Elanely!”
Karen is also getting EVP
messages about Rob but is not yet sure if the EVP are coming directly from him.
Karen said, “One message lately was, ‘Robbie, you’re needed here,’
so somebody was talking to him.”
The two feel that
their meeting has been a miracle that was set into motion and very much meant to
be through their membership in the Association, and Cathy and Rob working
together from the other side, to make it happen.